Big Brothers Used Binder Program -2008

Providing Quality Used Binders to Needy Transmen/FTM/Intersexed Men Since 2001

This Program was Created for Transmen Who Cannot Afford a New Binder!

 

 

 

This page was updated May 12, 2008

- Inventory adjusted -

 

All emails answered Monday thru Friday only. Please be patient. Binders reserved for the person with an email dated earliest

 

Announcing our NEW email address for 2008! Bigbrothersbinder@cox.net 

 

Ages 17 and up may reserve any available binder.

Anyone younger than 17, needs a parent to be the primary contact. No exceptions!

If you are a Transman and can afford one or you are TG Butch or Drag King, please visit Underworks for all your binding needs

Please refer to the FAQ AREA for more information

Are you owed your free gift for donating a binder or binders to the program and still waiting? Click here for an update

 
       

You must click on the style you are interested to read details.

Please contact us only after you have reviewed the single item you desire.

Please click here to read through the F.A.Q. AREA before asking to reserve any item

Please note: some FAQ's were lost during the page redesign and are being re-added to the area periodically

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Quick Look Directory for most popular styles that are donated

Please click here to read through the F.A.Q. AREA before asking to reserve any item

   UW = Underworks

Just because the style is listed does not mean there are any available until you visit that area!

 
STYLES    u

Click to visit that area to check for available stock

 
UW 990/980 UW 983** UW 997 UW 998/978 UW 974 Double-T/T-Kingdom Title 9 Frogs Marena / Caromed  

UW 993

 

Click to visit that area to check for available stock

** Style UW 983 runs a size smaller than listed - if a 983 listed runs True to Size, you will see a 'T' next to it. This means it is not smaller than listed

Binder & Sport Bra Style Examples

Click on any photo to be taken to the retail website where they are sold new and/or for more information about them

  990/980            983                    997                    998/978                  974                    993                Marena/Caromed         Frog/T9    Double-T/TKingdom

Binding tips will be posted again very soon

 

 
       
 

We reserve the right to refuse a reservation to anyone with or without notice or explanation

How to Request a Reservation of an Item

 

Submit your:

  1. Full Name
  2. Age
  3. Complete 'Ship to' information (street number, street, city, state, zip or province and country code)
  4. Cell phone number so we can text you when your payment arrives and when your binder is shipped
  5. The Name, Size and Style binder in this area you wish to reserve -
    1. Please don't ask for a binder that doesn't exist on this page or ask me to pick one out for you!
  6. The reason why you cannot afford a new binder (Please, no novels - make it brief and to the point, much thanks)
  7. Your offer (will not include shipping)
  8. Measurements! Send us ALL of your measurements using the How To Measure formula Guide ( we are serious about getting them) No measurements, no reservation!
  9. If you need help figuring your final number, your true chest size, we'll be happy to help. Be sure to send us Measurements 1 & 2 using How To Measure formula Guide
  10. Emails without this information will not be answered. For more info, see the FAQ area!
  11. If you have a Mac and cannot click the mail icon, send to our NEW email address for 2008! Bigbrothersbinder@cox.net 

Click here to submit the above information - Please be patient when waiting on a reply. If you were the first person to ask for a binder listed, it will be reserved on the condition that you met all criteria and sent all the info needed.

Guys, I am very busy with work, dealing with severe health problems and helping out my elderly mother. Please don't send email after email (after email after email....) asking why I haven't answered you! I will and if I need to extend your reservation because I was late answering you after a reservation was made, I will. RELAX.

  • Nick
  • Program Director

~ALSO!~

  • PLEASE, DO NOT ASK US FOR A BINDER THAT IS NOT LISTED!!!

  • WE DON'T PICK OUT BINDERS FOR PEOPLE - IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND A BINDER THAT IS AVAILABLE AND NOT RESERVED THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS ON THIS PAGE.

  • DO NOT ASK FOR MORE THAN ONE BINDER AND DO NOT GET A FRIEND TO PLACE A BOGUS REQUEST FOR A BINDER SO YOU CAN GET TWO - YOU WILL GET CAUGHT!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS MATTER!

We reserve the right to refuse a reservation to anyone with or without notice or explanation

Bad attitudes will be rejected on the spot

 

 
How to Measure Formula: Standard not Metric
 
 
  • First: Using a cloth or plastic tape measure, measure around your rib cage under the crease of your breasts. You can use a metal tape measure used for building or woodwork in a pinch
  • Write down that number. This is measurement #1
  • Next, measure around the fullest part of your breasts. Do not mash down the tissue - measure lightly over them.
  • Write down that number. This is measurement  #2
  • Next add measurement #1 & #2 together
  • Write down that final number. This will be the sum of the measurement #1 & #2  added together.
  • Last, divide that final number, the sum of the measurement 1 & 2 , by 2.
  • The sum of that divided number is your true chest measurement.
  • Please be sure to send us: Measurement #1  |  Measurement #2  |  The sum of #1 & #2  |  The final divided number, that would be your true chest measurement

Example:

Measurement #1 is 32 inches. Measurement #1 is 36 inches.  Add 32 + 36. These equal 68. Divide 68 by 2. 68 divided by 2 = 34. Your true chest measurement is 34 inches

The final sum is your true chest measurement for a chest binder. Please email us with all 4 numbers when you ask to reserve a binder for you.

 

 

BINDERS ON HAND
9903xlw  

990 or 980 American Made Full Length Binder - 990: 1 Layer of Powerknit - 980 2 Layers of Powerknit - A Great binder for small-medium chests or very soft breast tissue  - Both styles have hook eye front

 

 ONE PER PERSON

Size Extra Large (XL) 990  - velcro tab shoulders (35" -39")

We have 2 XL style White Available - Single layer, Hook/eye front and Velcro tab shoulder adjustments - All are Brand NEW - Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

Be sure to measure ~first~ using the How To Measure formula Guide - Requests without this information will not be processed

Click here to be taken to Reservation Information

 

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>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

 

 
Reserved 990/980's

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983  American Made HALF Length Binder - 3 Layers of Powerknit - A Great binder for small-large chests but make sure your breasts are not too large (D or larger)

983's run a size small!!!!

ONE PER PERSON

Size Large 983 (UW states it fits 37"-40")  More like an Medium (34"-36")

  • We have 1 Large (medium really) 983 in White - Good condition  - Very off color - No strong odors Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 

Be sure to measure ~first~ using the How To Measure formula Guide - Requests without this information will not be processed

Click here to be taken to Reservation Information

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983

 

 

>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

Reserved 983's
  • 1 XSmall 993 in White (26-28") -VERY GOOD-No strong odors for S(m)S. in Tennessee until May 19, 2008
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997 American Made Full Length Binder Full Length Binder <unless specified otherwise> - 2 Layers of Powerknit - A Great binder for Medium - Large breast tissue)

ONE PER PERSON

Size Large 997 (40"-44")

  • We have 2 Large 997's in White - All New  - No strong odors - Specific Details: Person donating specifically requested no shipping be charged on these. Make an Offer (will include least expensive shipping)

ONE PER PERSON

Size Extra Large 997 (45"-48")

  • We have 1 XL 997 in White - All in Very Good condition  - No strong odors Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

Size 2 Extra Large 997 (48"-52")

  • We have 6 2XL 997's in White - All in Very Good condition  - No strong odors Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

Size 2XL (XXExtra Large) 997 (48"-52")

  • We have 5 2XL 997's in White - All in Very Good condition  - No strong odors Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

Size 2XL (XXExtra Large) 997 (48"-52")

  • We have 3 2XL 997 in White - Lower half of binder cut off by previous owner so it's a half binder - All in Very Good condition  - No strong odors Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

 

Be sure to measure ~first~ using the How To Measure formula Guide - Requests without this information will not be processed

Click here to be taken to Reservation Information

 

 

 

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>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

 

Reserved 997's
  • 1 Small 997 in White (32-34") -VERY GOOD-No strong odors for LA.E. in Florida until May 16, 2008
  • 1 Large 997 in White (45-48") -VERY GOOD-No strong odors for R.L in New Jersey until May 13, 2008
  • 1 Small 997 in White (32-34") -VERY GOOD-No strong odors for E.D. in California until May 16, 2008
  • 1 Small NEW 997 in White (32-34") -New for R.B. in Florida until May 20, 2008 (LAST extension)

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998 Crew Neck & 978 V-Neck   --  American Made Full Length Tee-shirt like Binder Shirts - 1 layer of powerknit / 1 layer of lycra - great for Large chests (breasts)

 

 ONE PER PERSON

Size 2 Extra Large (XXL) 998 Crew Neck (48"-51")

  • We have 3 2XL 998 in White - All in Very Good condition  - 1 has very heavy perfume smell! Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

Size 2 Extra Large (XXL) 998 Crew Neck (48"-51")

  • We have 1 2XL 998 in Black - Very Good condition  - Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

Size 2 Extra Large (XXL) 978 V-Neck (48"-51")

  • We have 3 2XL 78 V-Necks in White - All in Very Good condition - Make an Offer (will not include shipping)

 ONE PER PERSON

 

Be sure to measure ~first~ using the How To Measure formula Guide - Requests without this information will not be processed

Click here to be taken to Reservation Information

 

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>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

 

Reserved 998's 
  • 1 Medium 998  in White (36-39") -VERY GOOD-No strong odors for L.S. in Texas until May 16, 2008

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974  American Made Full Length Crew Neck Muscle Shirt - Looks like an A-shirt or Tank Top with double layers of lycra - cotton shell - great for large chests (breasts) WARNING: These can be very hot in the summer due to thickness

 ONE PER PERSON

All reserved or sold

 

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>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

 

Reserved 974's 

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T-Kingdom  Asian Made runs smaller than American made. Good for small to medium chest (breasts)

 All sold or reserved

 

 

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>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much


Reserved T-Kingdom's 

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Frog Bra / Title 9 (Good for small - medium chests) Will NOT provide complete compression! A sports bra is a BRA! It will help especially those with small or very soft breasts.

Frog/Title9 Size conversion chart

  • Small fits
  • Medium fits
  • Large fits
  • Extra Large fits
  • 32D-34BC
  • 34D-36BC
  • 36D-38CD
  • 38D-40CD

We have....

1 Small Dusk Blue-Very good-No strong odors     Make an Offer (will not include shipping)
5 Small White-Almost New-No strong odors         Make an Offer (will not include shipping) 
2 Medium   Black-Very good-No strong odors           Make an Offer (will not include shipping)
4 Medium White-Very Good-No strong odors          Make an Offer (will not include shipping)
1 Large White-Fair stretched out back- off colored band-No strong odors See above
3 X-Large 2 Black 1 white-Very Good-No strong odors Make an Offer (will not include shipping)
 

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Be sure to measure ~first~ using the How To Measure formula Guide - Requests without this information will not be processed

Click here to be taken to Reservation Information

 

 

 

>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

 

Reserved Frog's      
  • None

1 Small black frog went to Z.A. in PA - he was hospitalized for 8 months and has no $$$. It was sent to him for $0

 

 

 

 

   
 
Caromed American Made Full Length Surgical Binder Zippered front - thick banded bottom - Velcro Tab top shoulder adjustments - great for Medium to Large chests (breasts)

 

 All sold or reserved

 

 

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>> Note that what you see may not be available if someone has sent in an email before you asking for the binder you are interested in

Regarding "Make an Offer"

Just like before, if your offer is too much, we will let you know and settle on a lower price.

FYI: Any offer over $10 is too much

 

Reserved Caromed's 
  • all sold

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F.A.Q. Area Most Popular in Red
  1. Reservation Addendum effective Oct 5, 2007
  2. Thinking of getting as friend to ask for a reservation so you can get 2 binders? DO EVEN THINK ABOUT IT
  3. FTM Gear orders of $20 or more Disqualify anyone from qualifying for this program
    1. Using different names to try to fool us
  4. What are your requirements? (Age, living arrangements <parents house?> ect...)
  5. Can I ask for a binder that is not listed and you contact me if one comes in?
  6. How do I donate my old binder or binders to the program?
  7. I am a size Small and my breast size is an A (maybe less) - do I need a binder or to bind at all?
  8. What if the binder has some odor? Can I send it back for an exchange?
  9. I have a 997 (or a 983) How do I get this damn thing on???
  10. Why do I have to tell you why I cannot afford a new binder & why have rules? <example of an email recently from one unhappy 'hate the rules' guy>
  11. How do I determine if a binder in the program is right for me?
  12. What do I do after I find a binder I like and determine it should fit me? How do I reserve it?
  13. How do I pay for my binder after it is determined it should fit me?
  14. How much is shipping and handling?
  15. Why is there only one per person and can I buy another later?
  16. Why do I have to be strapped for cash or financially unable to buy a new one to qualify for this program?
  17. Is there a waiting list I can be on for binders that have not yet come in?
  18. What if a binder does not fit me after I receive it?
  19. Will you let me know if a binder comes in that I can exchange the old one for?
  20. How much time do I have to pay for my binder after I reserve it?
  21. What if I cannot pay for the binder within the time frame allowed for me?
  22. What if I can pay for the binder then something comes up and I can't in the time I am given?
  23. Why is there a time limit for payment at all?
  24. Can I re-donate the binder after I have my chest surgery?
  25. What if my binder is lost in the mail and I never receive it? Will I be sent a refund or a replacement?
  26. What if my package is misdelivered and it cannot be found, will I get my money back?
  27. I'm a Drag King and ID as TG Butch, too - why don't I qualify for this program?
  28. Can I make payments like Lay-A-Way?
  29. How do I bind safely - any tips?
  30. Why won't you accept Western Union anymore and why should we be punished for what another person did?
  31. Where does the money go when people pay for a used binder?

 

As of Oct 5, 2007 the outlined issues below become effective.

RESERVING A BINDER ON THE LIST

  • If you find you cannot get your payment in by the time your reservation expires DO NOT tie up a binder for 7 days (US guys) or 14 Days (INT guys). The binder you reserved will go back on the list the day your reservation expires if your payment is not made through the means sent to you. NO MORE EXCEPTIONS
  • USA Guys: You can ask for a 2 day extension but you must ask for the 2 extension within 2 days of your reservation expiration date. (see example below)
    • You cannot ask for an extension the day before or the day of or the day after your reservation expires.
  • International Guys: You can ask for a 4 day extension but you must ask for the 4 extension within 7 days of your reservation expiration date. (see example below)
    • You cannot ask for an extension the day before or the day of or the day after your reservation expires.
  • You cannot ask for more than one extension.
  • If you fail notify us as outlined above, the binder you reserved will go back on the list the day your reservation expires. NO MORE EXCEPTIONS
  • If your circumstances have changed and you can no longer afford the binder you reserved, be fair to others, notify us so we can place the binder back on the list.

TRADES

If asking for a trade of a binder you can no longer fit into:

  • THE BINDER YOU SEND MUST BE IN Excellent CONDITION or it will promptly be sent back to you C.O.D. We WILL NOT pay to have it shipped back to you.
    • If we cannot ship it back to you C.O.D., you will need to pay for return shipping before it is sent back to you.
    • If you fail to pay for return shipping within the time frame we will give, your binder will be considered a donation to the program and will become our property and then be available to others
  • If you fail to have the binder you wish to trade delivered to the address given to you, within 7 days (US) or 14 days (INT), your reservation will be cancelled and the binder you wanted placed back on the list.
  • USA Guys: You can ask for a 2 day extension but you must ask for the 2 extension within 2 days of your reservation expiration date. (see example below)
    • You cannot ask for an extension the day before or the day of or the day after your reservation expires.
  • International Guys: You can ask for a 4 day extension but you must ask for the 4 extension within 7 days of your reservation expiration date. (see example below)
    • You cannot ask for an extension the day before or the day of or the day after your reservation expires.
  • You cannot ask for more than one extension.
  • If you mail your binder to us within 2-3 days of reservation expiration and your binder gets to us after the reservation has expired, even one day after, the binder you sent for a trade will promptly be sent back to you C.O.D. We WILL NOT pay to have it shipped back to you.
    • If we cannot ship it back to you C.O.D., you will need to pay for return shipping before it is sent back to you.
    • If you fail to pay for return shipping within the time frame we will give, your binder will be considered a donation to the program and will become our property and then be available to others

Examples of Extension Rules:

USA Joe's expiration date is Oct 14, 200-. Naturally, his reservation was granted on Oct 7, 200-. But Joe discovers that he cannot pay for his binder by the expiration date. What should he do?

USA Joe must request an extension on payment within 2 days of it's due date, which would be asked for on or before Oct 12, 200- to get it. If he asks for it after Oct. 12, it will not be granted. He then takes the chance that his binder being put back on the list at 11:59 pm the day of expiration, if payment is not made or has not arrived by Oct 14, 200-.  Any payment made to Pay Pal after the expiration date will be refunded (less Paypal fees) or if mailed in, the envelope marked 'Refused: Return to Sender'

International Jack's expiration date is Oct 15, 200-. Naturally, his reservation was granted on Oct 1, 200-. But Jack discovers that he cannot pay for his binder by the expiration date. What should he do?

International Jack must request an extension on payment within 7 days of it's due date, which would be asked for on or before Oct 8, 200- to get it. If he asks for it after Oct. 8, it will not be granted. He then takes the chance that his binder being put back on the list at 11:59 pm the day of expiration, if payment is not made or has not arrived by Oct 15, 200-. Any payment made to Pay Pal after the expiration date will be refunded (less Paypal fees) or if mailed in, the envelope marked 'Refused: Return to Sender'

Why are we being so strict? because the ratio of binders to people in need are not equal. We DO NOT have enough binders to help everyone who needs one. People who tie up a binder, knowing they cannot pay or find they cannot by the date due and fail to notify us, are doing their fellow brothers a disservice for their selfish behavior and we are tired of catering to those who cannot or will not heed the reservation date or read the FAQ area.

WE ARE DONE being nice about it.

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Thinking of scamming the program to get 2 binders? DON'T - I will catch you.

> Be fair to others!!!

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FTM Gear orders of $20 or more Disqualify anyone from qualifying for this program

> Anyone placing a gear order for $20 or more then asking for a used binder with a hard luck story, will be disqualified! If you can place a substantial gear order and be able to pay for it generally can buy a new binder. No exceptions

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> If you use a different name for your gear order than the one submitted to the BBUB program asking for a used binder will result in both requests being cancelled (Binder and Gear order) - We do not like being lied to and will result in you never qualifying for the BBUB  program in the future or a gear order being accepted in the future. No exceptions

 

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Can I ask for a binder that is not listed and put me on a list to be notified if one does come in?

>NO! That would not be fair to those who check the page often. Ask for a binder listed or don't ask - we mean it

 

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What are your requirements other than being FTM and low on funds?
> You must be 18 years old or older to reserve and purchase a binder from this program. You are asked your age when you send in a request to reserve a binder.
If you are 18 and live with your parents or a parent and you express concern for a parent finding out, you must then prove your age to us. A valid drivers license, school ID or other form of legal ID that shows your mailing address, your photo and your date of birth, will be acceptable. If we still feel there will be a problem, we reserve the right to terminate any reservation and agreement we may have come to.
>If you are under 18, you must have a parent or both parents contact us personally stating it is okay for you to reserve, pay for and receive a binder for the purpose of binding your breast because of GID/GD. After discussing this with a parent or guardian, we will then make arrangements for payment and subsequent mailing of the item.
> If for any reason we feel uncomfortable sending you a binder, say you reserve a binder then later tell us your mother will get mad about you getting it and we need to disguise the package, we may ask for a valid ID.

We reserve the right to cancel all reservations, agreements and or send money back to you with no binder if we feel uneasy about anything you have told us, if there will be a problem with a parent or guardian or if we feel we have to deceive your parent or spouse in order to send a binder to you. This rule is final and there will be no negotiations further after. ADDENDUM: Bad attitudes will no longer be tolerated. Emails that come across as shitty or impatient when you have been alerted that your reservation is about to expire will result in a binder reservation being cancelled. Rest assured, if your payment is in the mail at that time, when it gets to Nick, it will be sent back to you unopened and no binder sent.

 

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Nick, why do I have to tell you why I cannot afford a new Binder and why are there rules at all?
> First, to make sure these binders go to guys who cannot afford them, to the best of my ability, I ask for certain information about your particular situation so I am relatively sure you and others cannot afford a new one. Sure, some people could create a long story that they cannot afford a new binder and be lying from start to finish and I would never be the wiser. However, because I still have faith in people, I trust that what a person tells me is truth.

I ask because I need to; the program is for those who cannot afford a new binder - period and the only way I can somewhat ascertain that I am dealing with someone who cannot, is for them to explain as best they can why.

In general, since 2001, I have not had many problems. I have had only one complaint in all these years about the rules or having to explain ones situation to me. It is my personal opinion that if someone balks at the rules, they may not be on the level and it's best they go to Underworks or another maker to buy a new binder.

The guys who donate their old binders to the program always ~ ALWAYS~ make a comment to me in email or in a hand written note with the binder or binders that they want their binder(s) to go to a guy or guys who really cannot afford new one or someone in real need, or some other wording. They really want to help those who are wondering how they can afford to bind effective and safely.

Be certain, what anyone tells me in email about their situation, will remain confidential and will not be shared by me with anyone or on the site. Complains or shitty emails to me are fair game, such as the one below. For the record, what he offered was way too much and I would not have accepted it. His last reply was completely uncalled for.

________

My reply: April 23, 2006

I need you to re-read the FAQ area and send me the information I outlined to go further on this.

Nick

________

His reply: Rc'd April 24, 2006

Yikes - never mind. When my family needed clothing we just went to the church and we took from their closets with no questions
asked. Catch my drift. Big brother - indeed. 

_______

My reply: April 26, 2006

I am very sorry you feel this way - I hope you find what you need at your church.

be well,
Nick

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How do I determine a binder in the program is right for me?
> Review the binders on this page then use the How to Measure formula to determine if the binder is right for you and will fit properly Click for the How To Measure formula. You will be required to send us both numbers and the answer you came up with before we will reserve the binder for you. We have had too many problems of late with guys who say a binder they got does not fit. Measuring is a requirement from now on.

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What do I do after I find a binder I like and determine it should fit me? How do I reserve it?
> You write down the binder name and the size then click on the email icon to send us an email with your full name, your age, your address, your phone number, the reason why you cannot afford a new binder. Also, you will now be required to send us your measurement numbers before we will reserve the binder for you. We have had too many problems of late with guys who say a binder they got does not fit. Measuring is a requirement from now on. Please visit How To Measure formula for instructions on how to measure.

ADDENDUM: As of June 14, 2006:

Bad attitudes will no longer be tolerated!

You are expected to get your payment in on time and if not, ask for an extension in a reasonable time! Emails that come across as shitty or impatient, such as "Uh, no..." when you have been asked if you have mailed your payment and alerted that your reservation is about to expire, could result in a binder reservation being cancelled on the spot!

 Rest assured, if your payment is in the mail and your reservation has been terminated, when your payment gets to Nick, it will be sent back to you unopened and no binder sent. Nick will not keep money for a binder if a binder is not sent in return under any circumstances! Using this as an excuse not to send your payment on time is absurd!

This rule is final.

If you have been alerted that your binder reservation has been cancelled, there will be no further negotiations thereafter. All emails will be ignored and you could be banned from reserving another binder from this program indefinitely.

There are too many guys in need out there for one or two people to tie up a binder over ungratefulness or childishness.

YOU MUST TELL US WHY YOU CANNOT AFFORD A NEW ONE, ALONG WITH THE INFORMATION WE ASK FOR ABOVE, IN YOUR EMAIL! IF YOU DO NOT SEND THE INFORMATION CLEARLY OUTLINED ABOVE, WE WILL NOT ANSWER YOUR EMAIL AND IF THE NEXT PERSON AFTER YOU ASKS FOR THE SAME BINDER AND GIVES US ALL THE INFORMATION WE ASK FOR, IT WILL BE RESERVED FOR HIM, EVEN IF YOU WERE FIRST. THIS FAQ AREA TOOK HOURS TO COMPILE - WE WILL REWARD THOSE WHO READ IT BEFORE WE WILL EXPLAIN THE RULES TO SOMEONE WHO FEELS THEY DON'T NEED TO! IN FACT, WILL WILL NO LONGER EXPLAIN IN AN EMAIL WHAT THE RULES ARE FROM THIS DAY FORWARD; THIS AREA ALLEVIATES ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE MIGHT HAVE. 2-8-06

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Can I make payments like Lay-A-Way?
>June 19, 2006 - No- sorry. Do not assume you can make partial payments. If you use Pay pal, and you do anyway, your money less Pay pal fees will be refunded and no binder sent. If you send cash or money order, it will be mailed back.

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How do I pay for my binder after it is determined it should fit me?
> You will be sent all payment options and delivery options is an email along with a 'reserved until' date.

US guys have 7 days to get a payment made - do NOT wait until the next to the last day to mail your payment. If your payment is not here by the last day we give you, your binder will go back on the list and when your money is received, if you mailed it, it will be marked Return to Sender and not opened. if you pay through Pay pal a day after the due date, your will be refunded your payment less fees we incur by Pay pal.

International guys have 14 days to get a payment made - do NOT wait until the next to the last day to mail your payment. If your payment is not here by the last day we give you, your binder will go back on the list and when your money is received, if you mailed it, it will be marked Return to Sender and not opened. if you pay through Pay pal a day after the due date, your will be refunded your payment less fees we incur by Pay pal.

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How much is shipping and handling?

> The cost depends for shipping and handling on where you are and if you add anything to your binder reservation - USA is usually $4 - International is usually $7 or less. It could be more if you want Priority Mail (USA & International), Express Overnight (Not available in some USA cities - Express Not an option for International guys, or if you add something else to the cost of your binder, such as a packer.

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Why is it only one per person and can I buy another one later?
> Because there are so few binders and so many out there who cannot afford a new one and simply don't yet know about this program, one per person is fair. I used one binder for 3 years. You can reserve and buy another but the waiting time is 6 months from the last purchase to make sure others have an opportunity to get one of the used binders.

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Why do I have to be strapped for cash or financially unable to buy a new one to qualify for this program?
> There are way too many guys out there unable to afford $30 + for a new binder - they are barely making it each month just to survive as it is - why should they go without? If you are able to afford a new binder and you say you cannot just to get a cheaper binder, you are cheating someone who really needs one, who really cannot afford one, out a binder that is beneficial to their body image and mental well being.

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I am a size small and my breast cup size is an A (maybe less), do I need a binder or do I need to bind at all?
> NO!

A small mound of very soft flesh with possibly some nipple protrusion on ones chest are really nothing more than bumps. Consider your self extremely lucky! They can be easily flattened by a tight T-shirt. There is no reason to bind! If you don't have to bind, it's best that you don't! Binding is for people who have very defined breast tissue that is easily seen. This necessitates binding if one wants to hide their breasts.

Binding is often painful and dangerous if not done properly or done even with a good binder for an extended period of time. Binding compresses the rib cage, in most cases, which in turn restricts breathing. Even a small amount of restriction can cause fluid build up in the lung tissue.

Nick's Notes: Someone this small ordered a small jog bra that was free, just pay shipping. I knew he was a small but he didn't impart to me he was an A or smaller cup. I got an upset email from him saying it didn't fit, too loose and didn't compress. I asked what size his breast were and found out "an A or less". I told him the above and to use tight T-shirts, like I did but he was still upset writing, "What am I going to do now! I have noting to bind with!" He then stated he was using a compression wrap like an Ace. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE THAT SMALL! Think of the guys who are D, DD and over, like size F who, even with a good binder, still cannot hide their breasts! You don't have it rough, at all! I hid my Small B's with two tight T-shirts then a slightly larger shirt over them, even in the hot summer, and was fine. You will be, too!


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What if a binder has an odor? Can I send it back for an exchange or refund?

> NO!

Wash it!

If it's underarm smell. spray some Febreze on it then wash it. The smell will be gone.

I bought a used leather motorcycle jacket from a pawn shop a few years ago. The pits were awful! I sprayed Febreze on them and within a few hours, it had NO ODOR. I later had it professionally cleaned.

There is no need, whatsoever, for anyone to ask to send back a binder or frog that has some odor, for an exchange or refund. A good washing is all they need most of the time.

Just be grateful you have something.

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How do I get this thing on??

If you have a 997 or 983 and cannot get it over your head, step into the neck and pull up over the legs and torso then adjust breast tissue once it is in place. That's the best way.

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What if a binder does not fit me after I receive it?
>If you measured right, it should fit you. It is your responsibility to measure yourself prior to reserving a binder to prevent this from happening; in fact, it is now a requirement - granted, some binders are stretched out however, we will make that known in the description. You will need to send us your numbers in your email so we know you measured.

We cannot physically see you to measure you, so we rely on your accuracy to make sure a binder is sent to you that will fit. The How To Measure formula is a successful method created by Underworks®. If for some reason something does happen; you accidentally measure incorrectly or the binder is stretched out from excessive wear prior to you receiving it, you can send the binder back for an exchange IF something in your size is available. If another binder in your size is not available, you can hang onto the binder until something does become available or you can send it back for a refund of the purchase price. Shipping, handling and confirmation choices are non-refundable.


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Will you let me know if a binder comes in that I can exchange the old one for?
> It will be your responsibility to check the page for new additions in the event something comes in that you wish to exchange for but all items coming in are up for grabs by the first person who sends an email wishing to reserve it. If someone sees the new addition before you do and sends an email asking to reserve it, this is fair and it will be reserved for them.

 

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How much time do I have to pay for my binder after I reserve it?
> If you live in the USA, you have 7 days from the time we acknowledge your email and reserve it for you to pay for the item. If you live outside the USA, you have 14 days from the time we acknowledge your email and reserve it for you to pay for the item.

Weekends and Holidays no longer count - policy was changed Sept 2006

It is your responsibility to make a prompt payment!

US guys have 7 days to get a payment made - do NOT wait until the next to the last day to mail your payment then contact us with an excuse. If your payment is not here by the last day we give you, your binder will go back on the list and when your money is received, if you mailed it, it will be marked Return to Sender and not opened. if you pay through Pay pal a day after the due date, your will be refunded your payment less fees we incur by Pay pal.

International guys have 14 days to get a payment made - do NOT wait until the next to the last day to mail your payment. If your payment is not here by the last day we give you, your binder will go back on the list and when your money is received, if you mailed it, it will be marked Return to Sender and not opened. if you pay through Pay pal a day after the due date, your will be refunded your payment less fees we incur by Pay pal.

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What if I cannot pay for the binder within the time frame allowed for me?
> Do not reserve the binder. Others deserve a chance at these binders and if a person ties up a binder 7 or 14 days knowing they cannot pay on time is unfair and will no longer be tolerated.

 

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What if I can pay for the binder then something comes up and I can't in the time I am given?
> If you think you can and then something comes up, you need to contact us immediately and either give up the binder reservation to the next person or ask for a 2 day extension but USA guys cannot ask for an extension within 2 days of your expiration date and International guys cannot ask for a 2 day extension within 7 days of expiration date. You must ask within 4 days of expiration date.

Examples:

USA Joe's expiration date is Oct 14, 200-. Naturally, his reservation was granted on Oct 7, 200-.

USA Joe must request an extension on payment on or before Oct 12, 200- to get it. If he asks for it after Oct. 12, it will not be granted. He then takes the chance that his binder being put back on the list at 11:59 pm the day of expiration, if payment is not made or has not arrived by Oct 14, 200-.  Any payment made to Pay Pal after the expiration date will be refunded (less Paypal fees) or if mailed in, the envelope marked 'Refused: Return to Sender'

International Jack's expiration date is Oct 15, 200-. Naturally, his reservation was granted on Oct 1, 200-.

International Jack must request an extension on payment on or before Oct 8, 200- to get it. If he asks for it after Oct. 8, it will not be granted. He then takes the chance that his binder being put back on the list at 11:59 pm the day of expiration, if payment is not made or has not arrived by Oct 15, 200-. Any payment made to Pay Pal after the expiration date will be refunded (less Paypal fees) or if mailed in, the envelope marked 'Refused: Return to Sender'

If you fail to pay for your binder by the date you are given and you do not contact us, the binder will go back on the list after the mail runs that day or the next person on the waiting list for it will get it. We will not be unfair to those who can get payment in on time.

If you mailed your payment or paid through Paypal after the reservation expires, your payment will be refunded, less Paypal fees and no binder sent.

 

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Why is there a time limit for payment at all?
> Everyone deserves a chance at any binder on this page. because there are so few, letting a binder sit reserved until the person gets around to paying isn't fair to others. The time frames given for US and non-US Transmen is fair and has proven to be fair and achievable for many in the past.

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Can I re-donate the binder after I have my chest surgery?
> Yes! Be sure to contact us in case there is a change in our mailing address. You will be sent a free gift for doing so; An FTM Cock strap. Please note that you will not be eligible for a refund of your purchase price because you have worn the binder and put it to good use for the time you had it. If you have any questions about refund policy, please visit FAQ's below.

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What if my binder is lost in the mail and I never receive it? Will I be sent a refund or a replacement?
> US GUYS ONLY:

Plan A: Your package will be sent with Delivery Confirmation. I will confirm that your package has not been delivered by looking up the Delivery Confirmation number on the USPS website. If their site shows your package was delivered (it will not show an address), it is up to you to prove otherwise. I suggest you file PS Form 1510 with your post office as a 'Rifled' item. You will not be sent a replacement binder not given a refund of your purchase price until you can prove it was not delivered to your house! See Plan B for further information.

Plan B: If the USPS site shows the package has not been delivered, you and I will both need to file PS Form 1510 with our respective post offices. You might check if there is a different form you can fill out from you end, since you are the recipient and feel your package has been lost. I will file PS Form 1510 from my end. This shows me you are helping find the lost package and because you cannot file a fraudulent report with the postal service, I will know that I am not being scammed.

You are required to send me a scanned copy or a photo copy of the form you filed in order for me to send you a replacement binder, if available or refund your purchase prices (less S&H).

HOWEVER.....

A full 30 days must pass before the above is fulfilled. We must give each respective postal service to get your package to you. After the 30 day mark (from the date the package was mailed by us), you will be contacted asking what you want; a replacement binder, if we have one or a refund of the purchase price (less S&H). Refunds are made through Paypal only.

A replacement binder (if available) WILL NOT be sent without that valid form and even with the form copy sent to me, will not be sent to you until 30 DAYS have passed from the date I mailed your binder. We need to wait to see if your binder arrives within that 30 day period before I proceed with another binder, if available or a refund of your purchase price (less S&H).

This is non-negotiable.

If the original binder does arrive, you are required to send it back! We will periodically check the Delivery Confirmation sticker number on the USPS website. If one day it shows you in fact were delivered the package, we will be contacting you asking you for it back and or taking appropriate action to ensure it is returned for another to have. Honesty goes a long way.

International: If your package does not arrive within a reasonable time, you will given your customs sticker number through email (you may have to request it from me). I will look up said customs sticker number for delivery information through the USPS website.

HOWEVER.....

If the USPS website shows that your package has been ACCEPTED into your country, it is out of our hands! We cannot do a thing from here. You, like the US guys, will need to file the appropriate paperwork in your country regarding a lost package and I will need a copy of the part you keep for proof that you are actively searching for this package. This will ensure that you will qualify for a replacement binder (if available) or a refund of the purchase price of the binder, less shipping and handling.

BUT...

A full 45 days must pass before the above is fulfilled. We must give each respective postal service to get your package to you. After the 45 day mark (from the date the package was mailed by us), you will be contacted asking what you want; a replacement binder, if we have one or a refund of the purchase price (less S&H). Refunds are made through Paypal only.

If the original binder does arrive, you are required to send it back! We will periodically check the customs sticker number on the USPS website. If one day it shows you in fact were delivered the package, we will be contacting you asking you for it back and or taking appropriate action to ensure it is returned for another to have. Honesty goes a long way.

 

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What if my package is misdelivered and it cannot be found, will I get my money back?
See above

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I'm a Drag King and ID as TG Butch, too - why don't I qualify for this program?
> Only Transmen who feel male 24/7/365, who have GID/GD and